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The Limmud Sugia Social Beit Midrash

Are we slaves?

Week 2

פתיחה

Bob Dylen

Bob Dylen

You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

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המשך קריאה >
Haggadah

Haggadah

In every generation

a person is obligated to regard himself

as if he had come out of Egypt,as it is said:

"You shall tell your child on that day,

it is because of this

that the L-rd did for me when I left Egypt.

" The Holy One, blessed be He,

redeemed not only our fathers from Egypt,

but He redeemed also us with them,

as it is said:

"It was us that He brought out from there

, so that He might bring us to give us

the land that He swore to our fathers."

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תמצית

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  • קושיא
    מנחה

    Welcome to Week 2 of our brand new beit MIdrashHere are some sources and and questions we would like to…

    Welcome to Week 2 of our brand new beit MIdrash

    Here are some sources and and questions we would like to hear your opinions about :

    1. Does the fact that we we were slaves to Pharoah in Egypt has meaning for us today?"

    2. "According to the hagaddah, each and every one of us was redeemed from Egypt. In what ways do you think this might be true for each of us today?

    3. Do you agree with Dylan, or Lennon

    (צפיה בדעה במקור)

  • Sofia Howard

    Lennon in "Imagine" sang about the idea of discarding all figures of worship and idolatry and the things that set… Lennon in "Imagine" sang about the idea of discarding all figures of worship and idolatry and the things that set us apart. But Dylan here claims that in the end, whether you like it or not, you are serving something, whether it be a God, a devil, or just a concept. Though we should remember that Dylan was being an evangelical Christian - a born-again at this point. I don't knew whether this was ever released (it sounds quite raw) but its a very funny and I think effective response.   (צפיה בדעה במקור)

  • תשובה
    jofeinerman

    I have always felt that the Hagadda's:  "each and every one of us was redeemed from Egypt" had existential deep… I have always felt that the Hagadda's:  "each and every one of us was redeemed from Egypt" had existential deep meaning, but lately , with everything going around us i am beginning to feel that maybe the message is much more simple - the Pharaoh's have never gone away . each generation including us needs the same concrete redemption  from our enemys (צפיה בדעה במקור)

  • קושיא
    Ana Perlov

    I am not sure I understand what you meant by comparing Dylan to Lennon?could you elaborate on this?

    I am not sure I understand what you meant by comparing Dylan to Lennon?

    could you elaborate on this?

    (צפיה בדעה במקור)

  • Levi ganz

    I think that it is a very important fact that we were enslaved in Egypt. Egypt was a cultural empire… I think that it is a very important fact that we were enslaved in Egypt. Egypt was a cultural empire , not only  a military one. This is a major challenge today as we are dominated by the global consumer culture. The Haggadah itself states :" "In the beginning our fathers served idols; but now the Omnipresent One has brought us close to His service" . I think we all know what are the Idols of today that we need to be freed from.   (צפיה בדעה במקור)

  • עקיבא רגן

    can you give an example please? can you give an example please? (צפיה בדעה במקור)

מקורות עיקריים

"Gotta Serve Somebody"

BOB DYLAN

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